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Ulfric Vilhjálmr Arngrimsson Court Ringbearer King of the Empire, Web Admin Posts: 254	Swedish Personae Jul 5, 2011 14:08:22 GMT -4 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ulfric Vilhjálmr Arngrimsson on Jul 5, 2011 14:08:22 GMT -4 Haldor Halvardson wrote: Here is where we will discuss and post resources for Swedish garb and personae.
	Wilhelm, son of Arngrim Wolfcaller, son of Sigurd Stormwrack, son of Thorril Kingslayer, son of Ulfgar Oathbreaker, son of Jorri the Far-Seer, descendant of Heimdall, Son of Odin by the Nine Waves of the Sea.

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Swedish Personae Jul 5, 2011 14:08:42 GMT -4

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Post by Ulfric Vilhjálmr Arngrimsson on Jul 5, 2011 14:08:42 GMT -4

Alric of Drentha wrote:

I have a scanned article on women's dress from the graves at Birka, if anyone's interested (email me: alricofdrentha at dagorhir dot com). The article is highly technical and doesn't have many useful sketches for reenactment purposes, but it does discuss garments worn under apron dresses and some smaller details like how the straps on apron dresses were attached to the brooches.

Wilhelm, son of
Arngrim Wolfcaller, son of
Sigurd Stormwrack, son of
Thorril Kingslayer, son of
Ulfgar Oathbreaker, son of
Jorri the Far-Seer, descendant of Heimdall,
Son of Odin by the Nine Waves of the Sea.

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Swedish Personae Jul 5, 2011 14:09:04 GMT -4

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Post by Ulfric Vilhjálmr Arngrimsson on Jul 5, 2011 14:09:04 GMT -4

Sven Kolfinsson wrote:

Hey Alric, do you have any information from Birka about pants described like this:

"The remains of one pair of trousers found at Birka were probably of the short and baggy variety. The trousers were of linen (or lined with linen) with little metal eyes set into their lower edges; the stockings were wool, with little hooks sewn onto them. The stockings were hooked to the lower edges of the trousers just below the knees. These little hooks used to connect the trousers and stockings, called "garter hooks" in most of the literature, show up all over Northern Europe in early period, from Birka to Winchester (Owen-Crocker 1986, 93) and even in Jorvík (Hall 1984, 121); they seem to have been most consistently used in Saxon areas."

(from: www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/mensgarb.html)

One of the first things I want to work on for striving into historical garb is to upgrade my pants a little more and these interest me enough to try to make a pair.

Wilhelm, son of
Arngrim Wolfcaller, son of
Sigurd Stormwrack, son of
Thorril Kingslayer, son of
Ulfgar Oathbreaker, son of
Jorri the Far-Seer, descendant of Heimdall,
Son of Odin by the Nine Waves of the Sea.

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Swedish Personae Jul 5, 2011 14:09:18 GMT -4

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Post by Ulfric Vilhjálmr Arngrimsson on Jul 5, 2011 14:09:18 GMT -4

Sven Kolfinsson wrote:

Also, I found some good information about weave styles and construction methods and a few patterns for 9th to 10th century Sweden (and a little for Denmark too).

www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/viktunic.html

Wilhelm, son of
Arngrim Wolfcaller, son of
Sigurd Stormwrack, son of
Thorril Kingslayer, son of
Ulfgar Oathbreaker, son of
Jorri the Far-Seer, descendant of Heimdall,
Son of Odin by the Nine Waves of the Sea.

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Swedish Personae Jul 5, 2011 14:09:31 GMT -4

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Post by Ulfric Vilhjálmr Arngrimsson on Jul 5, 2011 14:09:31 GMT -4

AlricofDrentha wrote:

No I don't - I suspect that that's in Inge Hägg's book on Birka that Thora cites in her bibiography (I tried to ILL it, but the library got me the wrong volume in the series). If I track it down, I'll let you know.

As a side note, I've been slowly working through Thora's sources for the article you posted ( www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/viktunic.html ), and thus far I've found her to be incredibly reliable. She's the best and most trustworthy internet source I've found for Viking age clothing, and I wouldn't hesitate to rely on what she writes.

Wilhelm, son of
Arngrim Wolfcaller, son of
Sigurd Stormwrack, son of
Thorril Kingslayer, son of
Ulfgar Oathbreaker, son of
Jorri the Far-Seer, descendant of Heimdall,
Son of Odin by the Nine Waves of the Sea.

Ulfric Vilhjálmr Arngrimsson Court Ringbearer King of the Empire, Web Admin Posts: 254	Swedish Personae Jul 5, 2011 14:09:45 GMT -4 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ulfric Vilhjálmr Arngrimsson on Jul 5, 2011 14:09:45 GMT -4 Sven Kolfinsson wrote: Thanks. I spent almost all of my break time from work today reading through those articles. =D
	Wilhelm, son of Arngrim Wolfcaller, son of Sigurd Stormwrack, son of Thorril Kingslayer, son of Ulfgar Oathbreaker, son of Jorri the Far-Seer, descendant of Heimdall, Son of Odin by the Nine Waves of the Sea.

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Swedish Personae Jul 5, 2011 14:10:01 GMT -4

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Post by Ulfric Vilhjálmr Arngrimsson on Jul 5, 2011 14:10:01 GMT -4

Alric of Drentha wrote:

www.pvv.ntnu.no/~hmg/lrp/kostyme/viking/v-k-underkjole.html - fantastic article, had some stuff I hadn't seen before. Also check out the bibliography, it's excellent.

(Posting this in Denmark, too)

Also, fabric recreation: forest.gen.nz/Medieval/articles/Warp/WARP.HTML

Wilhelm, son of
Arngrim Wolfcaller, son of
Sigurd Stormwrack, son of
Thorril Kingslayer, son of
Ulfgar Oathbreaker, son of
Jorri the Far-Seer, descendant of Heimdall,
Son of Odin by the Nine Waves of the Sea.

Sven Kolfinsson
Karl